Once, Upon Time 🐍 Discussion & Review Podcast | Doctor Who: Flux

Appeals to possibility, imaginative concepts, shadow shows, the nature of serialisation, validities of fan judgements, space laws, why episodes get compared, preferred versions of history, tensions, projections, producer comments & more!

Neo
Ingiga
Oliver

TIMECODES:

00:00:00 Intro, & what we liked
00:05:13 Overexplanations
00:07:51 Chibnall & Strevens comments
00:12:23 Character vignettes, & an imaginative premise
00:17:37 The 40th anniversary, & the core ideas at work
00:22:47 Cops all the way down, laws in this era
00:33:31 Setup & payoffs
00:37:15 Why the Weeping Angels worked
00:44:18 Tension between Yaz and the Doctor
00:50:30 Story resolutions, ‘amaterial’ drama
00:54:28 Bouncing off an era, serialised consistency
01:00:08 ‘Shadow shows’, fandom imagination
01:11:09 Writing off shows
01:15:05 Russia & Sontar, Ruth & Doctor
01:24:12 ‘Too early to judge’
01:35:01 Serialised hooks, changing endings, leaks
01:37:58 Vinder, Captain Jack, COVID19
01:44:18 Bel’s Story, guns
01:49:25 Why fans compare showrunners, episodes, eras
01:58:52 Outro

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